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[12/08] Tim Moore wants to repair the roof, as there is occassionly water leaking to Unit 8 Balcony , waiting for 2 quotes from Cross City and Pristine ]
[12/08] Cross City Roofing has a quote about 13K + , but in the quote, they advised they can not warranty no more water leaking after repair
[14/01] Tim Moore , owner of Unit 8 , request Strata start repairing with Cross City roffing[Coummunication Eamil quote below and PDF for job quote attached ]
Good Morning Strata Committee members
We would like to note that we have only had Tim, respond and provide instructions in relation to the job.
May the rest of the committee members please provide their instructions of approval for the attached quotation?
If you could please get back to me by 2pm Friday 20th in order for us to move forward.
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Zoe Chris
Strata Assistant to Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata AgentD: 02 9556 5285|T: 02 9556 5222 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Closed between 12.30pm – 1.30pm daily
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards LegislationFrom: Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2023 10:25 AM
To: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Tim,
Would you like me to also ask Cross City to attend to the gutter clean as per attached email from you, instead of Pristine?
Please confirm
Thank you
Kind Regards,
Zoe Chris
Strata Assistant to Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata AgentD: 02 9556 5285|T: 02 9556 5222 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Closed between 12.30pm – 1.30pm daily
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards LegislationFrom: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, 14 January 2023 12:11 PM
To: Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Zoe,
Please just go ahead and organise Cross City Roofing to carry out the roof repairs scoped in their quote.
We’ve made a couple of attempts to obtain a comparative (revised) quote from Pristine.
My patience has run out and we need to take action.
Regards
Tim Moore (Unit 8)
Strata Committee member – SP8673
8-12 Gloucester road
Hurstville NSW 2220From: Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Sent: Friday, 13 January 2023 1:09 PM
To: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Tim,
No response received – I will follow up one more time and if we do not hear by next week I will let you know.
Kind Regards,
Zoe Chris
Strata Assistant to Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata AgentD: 02 9556 5285|T: 02 9556 5222 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Closed between 12.30pm – 1.30pm daily
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards LegislationFrom: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 3:43 PM
To: Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Zoe,
Happy New Year.Any progress with getting the additional information from Pristine ?
If we don’t get the additional information within a week or so then we should go ahead with the work scope as agreed.
Regards
Tim Moore (Unit 8)
Strata Committee member – SP8673
8-12 Gloucester road
Hurstville NSW 2220From: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2022 9:38 AM
To: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsThank you Tim, I will provide you with feedback as soon as I can. I have also set a reminder/alarm if I do not hear today to chase tomorrow.
Kind Regards,
Zoe Chris
Strata Assistant to Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata AgentD: 02 9556 5285|T: 02 9556 5222 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Closed between 12.30pm – 1.30pm daily
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards LegislationFrom: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2022 9:23 AM
To: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: FW: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Zoe,
Yes this is the quote that I’d like a bit more detail on regarding the amount of the battens that they will replace as part of the work.Cross City roofing were specific about the length of battens that they were going to replace (see attached pdf and screen snip below).
Also in regards to the number of broken tiles they proposed to replace.
Just looking for reassusrance from Pristine that they will do likewise and ensure a good quality long lasting job.
Regards
Tim Moore (Unit 8)
Strata Committee member – SP8673
8-12 Gloucester road
Hurstville NSW 2220From: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2022 8:37 AM
To: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Tim,
Can you confirm if you are referring to the attached quote? If so, I have been chasing Pristine for a very long time to provide feedback. I’m going to call them today!
Thank you and my apologies for the delay!
Kind Regards,
Zoe Chris
Strata Assistant to Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata AgentD: 02 9556 5285|T: 02 9556 5222 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Closed between 12.30pm – 1.30pm daily
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards LegislationFrom: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2022 6:08 PM
To: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: FW: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Zoe,
Thanks for feedback on gutter cleaning.
Please refer to my email dated August 12th in the email trail below.
This is in reference to roof and sarking repairs, not gutter cleaning.
I’m after any feedback from Pristine on my request for additional information regarding extent of batten replacement included in their quote.
Regards
Tim Moore (Unit 8)
Strata Committee member – SP8673
8-12 Gloucester road
Hurstville NSW 2220From: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2022 6:06 PM
To: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Tim,
Yes please see attached email trail.
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Zoe Chris
Strata Assistant to Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata AgentD: 02 9556 5285|T: 02 9556 5222 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Closed between 12.30pm – 1.30pm daily
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards LegislationFrom: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2022 12:56 PM
To: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: FW: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Zoe,
Have you received updated quote from Pristine as per below?
Apologies if your response is lost in my emails.
Regards
Tim Moore (Unit 8)
Strata Committee member – SP8673
8-12 Gloucester road
Hurstville NSW 2220From: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Sent: Monday, 10 October 2022 4:27 PM
To: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Tim,
I am currently waiting to hear back from Pristine. They advised me they will bee looking into their quote and adjusting.
The last time I follow up they then said their tech will email us with the necessary answers. A lot of wet weather occurring will cause these delays with the roofers.
I will give them a call tomorrow to find out what’s going on and have an answer for you as soon as possible.
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Zoe Chris
Strata Assistant
Licenced Strata AgentD: 02 9556 5285|T: 02 9556 5222 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Closed between 12.30pm – 1.30pm daily
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards LegislationFrom: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 10 October 2022 1:47 PM
To: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Zoe,
Any further progress with my request for additional information below?
Regards
Tim Moore (Unit 8)
Strata Committee member – SP8673
8-12 Gloucester road
Hurstville NSW 2220From: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Sent: Monday, 22 August 2022 8:54 AM
To: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Cc: Georgia Hilas Strata Manager <georgia.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsHi Tim
Apologies for the delay in responding.
We will make the queries and get back to you shortly.
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Zoe Chris
Strata Assistant
Licenced Strata AgentDirect Line: 9556 5285
T 02 9556 5222 | F 02 9556 5223 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Closed between 12.30pm – 1.30pm dailyLiability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation.
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From: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2022 2:45 PM
To: Zoe Chris Personal Assistant to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairsAfternoon Zoe,
I have a couple of queries on the quotes from Pristine and Cross City Roofing.
Need a bit more information so we can be seen to be comparing apples with apples as the saying goes.Cross City quote contains more detail than Pristine quote.
Specifically the Cross City quote mentions –
• Supply and installation of 12m of new timber battens associated with sarking
• Replacement of approximately 15 ridge tiles around the 4 square meter triangle section where the new sarking is being replaced
• Installation of around 20 new roof tiles to replace existing broken tilesThese specific details are missing from Pristine quote –
Can you please clarify with Pristine –
• Approximate linear length of battens to be replaced in the 4 square meter triangle section
• Additional cost for replacement of around 15 ridge cap tiles around the 4 square meter triangle section
• Additional cost for replacement of around 20 roof tiles that have been identified as being broken/cracked (by Cross City)Happy to discuss/clarify points above.
Regards
Tim Moore (Unit 8)
Strata Committee member – SP8673
8-12 Gloucester road
Hurstville NSW 2220[18/1] Alex enquiry about the warranty of 13K+ repair
[18/1] Zoe from Strata advised the blue color words about warranty ( cross city did not provide warranty for future water leaking )
[18/1] John (myself) suggest further investigate as there is no warranty
[30/1] Alex want assurance the 13k+ repair really at correct direction[Communication Email quote below ]
Hi Georgia,
Apology for the late reply. I have gone through the quotes and warranty.
Just one more concern:
Can any contractor give assurance that the Leak is 100% caused by the broken tiles? Because, we might have a situation the Leak continues even after the roof tiles has been replaced. If they are certain about that, can we add this clause to the contract: that the contractor will fix the leak free of charge should the Leak continues even after the tiles has been replaced?
Best regards,
Alex
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Hi Alex,The warranty information is written in blue at the bottom of their Quotation.
As we have 2 approvals for the attached quote, we require one more approval so we can proceed.
If the SC could please advise asap on their instructions this will be appreciated.
Thank you.
Kind Regards,
Zoe Chris
Strata Assistant to Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata AgentD: 02 9556 5285|T: 02 9556 5222 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Closed between 12.30pm – 1.30pm daily
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards LegislationPlease note, our office with be closed for Australia Day on Thursday 26th and Friday 27th January.
From: alex <djstraining@126.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2023 2:42 PM
To: Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Cc: Tim Moore <jtm29_pe@hotmail.com>; hurstvillechineseboy@outlook.com; beoelectrical@tpg.com.au; Georgia Hilas Strata Manager <georgia.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: Re:RE: SP8673 -> Roof and sarking repairs – Final QuoteHi Zoe,
I can find see the PDF quotation of Cross City. I cannot find the quotation for Pristine.
By the way, I have gone through the Cross City’s quotation, it didn’t mention anything about warranty.
Best regards
Alex Yue
[30/1] Georgia advised it was approved by committee as 3 people vote ( Tim Moore, Kevin, and Davorin ( owner of Unit 6, who had sold the unit on this date and in the middle of settlement )
[30/1] John ( myself ) questioned about a. the reason of the roof water not clear , b. what will be the best way to
repair with no gamble of spending money for nothing, c. what is the limit of committee, d, whether a unit on
contract can still vote and suggest leave issue to general meeting for more people to discuss
[31/1] Georgia response to above questions
[31/1] 13K+ repair work has been arranged by Georgia and start at the beginning of FEB[Commication Email quote below ]
Hi John,
As stated, the minutes of the last AGM advise that there are no restrictions.
Until the S22 is received from the solicitors advising us of a change in ownership of a unit, the Committee Member is still valid.
Kind regards
Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata Manager
Direct line: 9556 5213T 61 2 9556 5222 | F 61 2 9556 5223 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation.From: He John <hurstvillechineseboy@outlook.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2023 10:15 AM
To: Georgia Hilas Strata Manager <georgia.hilas@clisdells.com.au>; alex <djstraining@126.com>
Cc: jtm29_pe@hotmail.com; beoelectrical@tpg.com.au; Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>; smoussa123@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Re:Re:RE: SP8673 – Final vote – Roof Repairs and Gutter CleaningHi Georgia
Good morning, I clearly remember Sam, owner of Unit 16 asked Jim “if committee can approve over 10,000” and Jim said not let him not to worry . I copied him in this email. Could you please check the record of last few years
Also, about Unit 6, which is now under settlement of sale, can the vote still stand , as the payment will not be liable to them any more but the new owner, after it is settled , which might be in a couple of weeksThanks
Thanks
Your Sincerely
John HeBest Regards
发件人: Georgia Hilas Strata Manager <georgia.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
发送时间: 2023年2月1日 9:50
收件人: He John <hurstvillechineseboy@outlook.com>; alex <djstraining@126.com>
抄送: jtm29_pe@hotmail.com; beoelectrical@tpg.com.au; Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
主题: RE: Re:Re:RE: SP8673 – Final vote – Roof Repairs and Gutter CleaningHi John,
I have checked the minutes of the last AGM and as per motion 14 (restricted matters), the Committee do not have any restrictions. Hence, the Committee can vote on the quotation from Cross City Roofing.
Please note, we received majority approval from the Committee approving the quote. This means that 3 out of the 5 members voted approving the quote. The Committee Members were Tim, Kevin and Davorin.
We have followed standard practise for this matter.
In NSW, a Strata Committee has the authority to make decisions on behalf of the Owners Corporation (all owners) unless restricted at a General Meeting which in this case they have not.
I strongly suggest that the Strata Committee liaise amongst each other and advise me prior to the next AGM on what is required to be done at the complex, I will obtain fresh quotes and these can be presented at the AGM for everyone that is present to vote on. Otherwise, if items are left to the Committee to vote on and they do not feel comfortable, we will not be able to do anything around the complex and owners will get frustrated.
Thank you.
Kind regards
Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata Manager
Direct line: 9556 5213T 61 2 9556 5222 | F 61 2 9556 5223 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation.From: He John <hurstvillechineseboy@outlook.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:20 PM
To: alex <djstraining@126.com>; Georgia Hilas Strata Manager <georgia.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Cc: jtm29_pe@hotmail.com; beoelectrical@tpg.com.au; Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: Re: Re:Re:RE: SP8673 – Final vote – Roof Repairs and Gutter CleaningHi, Georgia
Good day , as Alex and my previous enquiries are not replied, please kindly find below explanation that why we raised this question
My question
1. .how much limit committee can approve ? – According to the last few years’ general meeting with Jim, we did have an agreed limit for committee’s approval . I do not remember it is 5,000 or 7,000 , but it is definitely less than 10,000 , because the owner of Unit 16 clearly asked Jim this question at last years’ general meeting. Unless it is seriously affect the normal life of the tenant. Obviously , the 13K roof leaking repair is out of the scope of committee approval, as this leaking happened occasionally in special circumstance only, for quite a few years already .
As agreed before , If the price over the limit, we will call for a special levy meeting.2. who are the majority of approval ? — I assume Tim and Kevin approved the 13K repair other than just the regular leave cleaning , although we did not see some writings on that. Alex and myself are still in the process of questioning more detail and options. So the remaining is owner of Unit 6, the nice man. We did not see he has approved and more important is Unit 6 has been sold and now is in the middle of settlement. I believe it is fair to all owners including the new owner that the current owner of unit 6 do not represent either side .
According to above, I could not see it is a legal valid decision that the 13K repair is paid and start. And Clisdells might have to wear the cost if there is no valid approval . To avoid this, I suggest hold the work order and we discuss this further in the next general meeting which is coming soon and usually in 2nd half of March.
Alex Question
I totally understand Alex’s concern. You might not already know, in the last few years, we have tried different ways and spent a lot of money on the roof leaking issues. But it still happened 2 or 3 times in last few years, as report. Removing the leaves regularly on the roof seems help somehow. As per statement in your quote, Cross City Roofing actually is not confident the leaking can be fixed after the “repair” . So that means we spend 13K for a gamble only. That is why Alex concern much about thisSo I will suggest
1. Hold the order and leave it to be discussed in the general meeting 1.5 months later
2. Try more methods to let more people attend the general meeting, for example , notice owners earlier, create a zoom/teams meeting room online, arrange the meeting at a convenient time .
More people attending is very important as it is related to fair decision to every one
I will also try my best to show the committee email communication to owners whoever I can contact , to let them know what is happening and why it is important that they attend the meetingAt last , please kindly not make me wrong, I have no intention to make any difficulties. You can see in the past, whenever there is leaking in other people’s unit , I respond quite quickly.
But for this case, the leaking just happened quite occasionally under special circumstance and the price is a big amount of 13K , which means each unit should pay 1,000 on it. More important is , it is not necessary can get it resolved even spending the money, I will suggest we have a big discussion about this in next general meeting. I believe this is the responsible attitude to all owners of the building.Thanks
Your Sincerely
John HeBest Regards
发件人: alex <djstraining@126.com>
发送时间: 2023年1月30日 星期一 13:52
收件人: Georgia Hilas Strata Manager <georgia.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
抄送: hurstvillechineseboy@outlook.com; jtm29_pe@hotmail.com; beoelectrical@tpg.com.au; Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
主题: Re:Re:RE: SP8673 – Final vote – Roof Repairs and Gutter CleaningHi Georgia,
still cannot get my original email through. it is as follow:
Just one more concern:
Can any contractor give assurance that the Leak is 100% caused by the broken tiles? Because, we might have a situation the Leak continues even after the roof tiles has been replaced. If they are certain about that, can we add this clause to the contract: that the contractor will fix the leak free of charge should the Leak continues even after the tiles has been replaced?
Alex
At 2023-01-30 10:49:13, “alex” <djstraining@126.com> wrote:
Hi Georgia,I just found the emails that I wrote to both you and Zoe were not sent successfully.
I wonder if we can add this clause to the contract: that the contractor will fix the leak free of charge should the Leak continues even after the tiles has been replaced?
Alex
Best regards,
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At 2023-01-30 08:29:28, “Georgia Hilas Strata Manager” <georgia.hilas@clisdells.com.au> wrote:
Dear Committee,We have received majority approval to proceed with Cross City Roofing and a work order has been issued this morning.
Thank you.
Kind regards
Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata Manager
Direct line: 9556 5213T 61 2 9556 5222 | F 61 2 9556 5223 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation.From: Georgia Hilas Strata Manager <georgia.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2023 12:00 PM
To: hurstvillechineseboy@outlook.com; jtm29_pe@hotmail.com; djstraining@126.com; beoelectrical@tpg.com.au
Cc: Zoe Chris PA to Georgia Hilas <pa.hilas@clisdells.com.au>
Subject: SP8673 – Final vote – Roof Repairs and Gutter Cleaning
Importance: HighDear Committee
It has been brought to my attention that there are numerous emails circulating for the roof repairs AND gutter cleaning.
Please be advised, that unless our office receives objections by Monday, 30th January 2023 (9am) we will issue a work order to Pristine to complete the regular gutter cleaning at the complex.
Furthermore, I note that the attached quotation from Cross City Roofing for the roof repairs has been approved by Tim and Kevin. We require one further approval to proceed, noting that Alex has asked questions surround the warranty and await his response to Zoe’s email this morning.
Thank you.
Kind regards
Georgia Hilas
Licenced Strata Manager
Direct line: 9556 5213T 61 2 9556 5222 | F 61 2 9556 5223 | http://www.clisdells.com.au
623 Princes Highway, Rockdale NSW 2216
Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation.Please note, our office with be closed for Australia Day on Thursday 26th and Friday 27th January .
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